Love your book “Cut Your Grocery Bill in Half” and love both of the audio seminars (groceries and budgeting) I bought from you too! They really motivate me. I am pretty good at managing a frugal food budget and we also have a nice garden that produces enough food that we can preserve some.
Here’s my question: what is a reasonable budget for groceries and for restaurant meals for me and my husband each month (we’re in our 50’s)? We lump all food (eating out or at home) together and also any household supplies.
Thanks for the great job you do for all of us!!!!
It’s so hard for us to give you a specific number for what you should be spending. It’s all a factor of: Your earnings, current fixed expenses (house payment, insurance, car payments if any, medical expenses etc) and your dietary needs.
For groceries, the average we’ve seen for “non-frugal” families is about $200 per person per month—for you and your husband $400 per month. By contrast we spend about $70 per person per month
We would definitely have separate budget categories for groceries and eating out.
For groceries start with what you are currently spending and evaluate if you think you could spend less by being more disciplined or shopping smarter. Then use the savings to fund debt reduction, retirement, vacation or a special event.
As far as eating out, again that’s going to be determined by your other expenses. If you’re trying to reduce debt or pay off a house, then you might want to spend less on eating out. If you’re debt free and have built your savings and retirement plans, then you may feel free to spend more. Regardless of what your financial situation is, we’ve always tried to limit eating out to special occasions or date nights rather than making it a weekly default just because we don’t want to cook. We do this for two reasons: 1) It’s so expensive and; 2) it’s hard to eat a healthy diet when you eat out often.
We’re not talking about feeling deprived; we’re encouraging you to live on purpose—making choices that benefit you physically, emotionally and financially.
October 5 - 11, 2014 is National Fire Prevention week. Keeping your family safe and your home protected is important, but it doesn’t have to be expensive. We have installed battery operated smoke detectors in several rooms in our home. Whenever we dust the house, Steve reaches up and tests the smoke detectors. We usually have to replace the 9 volt battery about once each year. That’s a small cost for peace of mind.
Take time this week to do an assessment of your fire saftey equipment and plans. You might consider a visit to a fire house too - our firemen and women are wonderful protectors of our communities and our property!
OUR VAN CAUGHT FIRE!
We had to use a fire extinguisher back in 1994 when our 1986 Ford van had an engine fire in the parking lot of a McDonalds in Blythe, California (we actually stopped in there last week on our way back from California - it's remodeled, but still brought back powerful memories). We were on our way back from a Disneyland trip in December. Steve was in the restroom with two of our youngest sons when Annette burst in the door (yes, she came into the Mens' room) yelling, “Steve the van is on fire.” Steve bolted out of the door and ran to the van.
Question: I am trying to fill out the Income/Outgo and Stewardship forms from your America’s Cheapest Family Budget System. My question centers on the "Monthly Allocation" and "Pay Check Allocation" amounts. We are a single income family and my husband now gets paid weekly instead of monthly. Since some months have more than 4 pay periods what is the best way to figure the amounts for the budget forms. It's confusing to me. Do we divide the categories by 12 months or 52 weeks?
Answer: Using the Income/Outgo Sheet is the starting point of establishing a budget that works for you. The idea is to get close to the right amount for each category on a monthly basis and to set up the right number of categories for your household’s spending.
The “nitty-gritty” detail of the number of paychecks and the specific allocations come into play when you actually set up your budget accounts and start distributing paychecks.
Is this making sense?
Here’s an example:
Budget Category: Vacation
Monthly Budgeted Amount: $200
Annual Budgeted amount $2400
If we were paid on the 1st and the 15th of the month we would allocate $100 per pay period to be saved in the Vacation account.
But if we were paid every week and did our budget every other week we would allocate $93 each period. ($2400 divided by 26 budget periods).
If you do this same calculation (Annual Amount /(divided by) 26 weeks) for every budget category you will find that you have a good amount of excess to manage. If you don’t do this, but keep your budgeted amounts divided by 24 (vacation at $100) and you do your budget twice a month, you’ll discover that you have extra paychecks two times a year. That can be a good thing, but it can also waste money because the extra might be looked at as “bonus” money and spent carelessly rather than managed to reach goals.
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"Wealth is attracted toward those who actively manage it."
America's Cheapest Family Budget System is a tool to help you get Right on the Money and Give you Hope!
If you want to reach your financial goals and live debt free, this is the tool for you! Steve & Annette use this exact system and so have their older children.
By spending about 2 hours every two weeks you'll know EXACTLY how much money you have:
And, you’ll reach your short and long term financial goals because you’ll be setting aside a pre-determined amount of money each paycheck for all the things you want to accomplish!
Using this system, Steve & Annette paid off their first home in only 9 years, paid cash for several cars, took fabulous vacations, remodeled two kitchens and sent their kids to college without loans. This budget system doesn’t require any special financial skills or degrees, just a willing heart to learn and a few hours each month.
We've taken great care to include all the information and tools that you'll need to succeed at creating an effective household budget. The kit is priced at $45. You'll easily recover the costs of the system many times over in the first few months of using it. We have calculated that our faithful use of this system has easily saved us more than $300,000 since 1982.
Other readers and website visitors who have used this system have told us that they have experienced great savings too.
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What Budgeters are Saying:
I can honestly say I feel motivated and confident in taking control of our finances after reading the book. This will be our first full month in using the new budget and money tracker sheets. When I was setting up the budget and figuring how much we spent on groceries and fuel each month I was in shock! My husband couldn't believe it either.
I am confident that with your plan and your book guidance that we can do this. I feel like we have more control and know where our money goes each month. It's so much easier for me to see where I'm spending too much and with the Stewardship sheets I can see how much I have left each week to spend in that category, instead of spending more and not having enough when it comes time to pay the bills. I'm praying for guidance and self-obedience to put this plan into action every day. I find myself being more aware of what I'm spending, just by writing everything down on these sheets instead of just plugging it into the checkbook.
So, thank you Steve and Annette. I have shared this "new" concept with my brother who is younger and in much need of financial guidance.
I wanted to say thank you to you both as you have quite literally changed my life. I know that seems to be an awfully big statement but here’s why. I am completely Debt Free as of yesterday (apart from the mortgage which will now be overpaid till its gone). I have paid off nearly £30,000 in debt in the last few years. I am a single mum of two, working full time and didn’t have any knowledge of budgeting or saving until I found your book and had a “light bulb” moment.
I feel so light and free, my money is for my girls and me, not some faceless company. Each month my girls sit with me and we do the budget. This is such a godsend as they can see where the money goes and just because I earn X amount it does not mean i can afford whatever they want that month.
Joyce from London, England
I have read a few of your books and they have immediately opened my eyes to different ways we can help ourselves become more economical.
The end of last year I started to look at budgeting our money so that we can pay off those pesky credit cards, loans, and other debt. My wife and I each have incomes that don't fluctuate much so we can predict what each paycheck is going to be. I also have a side job that brings in extra money each week.
My first goal for the New Year was to get rid of credit card debt. We’re off to a good start: we eliminated two in the first month and scheduled a third by next month. Using QuickBooks I figured out what we earned and what we paid out last year, so I was also able to figure out what percent each expense was of the annual income. I looked at the expenses and grouped them together. Then my thought was simply to use a spreadsheet to calculate how much each category was of the biweekly paycheck.
Here is my dilemma: Originally when I first read your books I was just cutting my bills in half and was taking a little out of each paycheck and this worked great. But now I want to start saving money for future goals and those pesky annual bills and things like vacations, instead of scrambling at the last minute.
For instance our Mortgage is $1568 (includes taxes, insurance and principal). Half of that amount is $784, however the percentage of the annual budget is $568.00. Another example is Groceries. We have cut our bill down from $700 to $900 each month down to $600 per month for a family of four by eliminating our extra trips to the store. That amount would be $300 per paycheck but based on the percentage of the budget it is $216.
My overall question is: What should I do?
o Cut all of the bills in half each per paycheck and then save what is left over for annual expenses?
o Or should I continue using the percentage of the annual budget and know that it will work itself out over time.
Thanks for taking time to pose such a specific question.
First off, you are doing great. Using any type of money management system on a consistent basis is going to help you make progress. The discipline is already paying off in eliminated credit card bills.
We wrote about this in our first book, America’s Cheapest Family in the utilities chapter:
“As with other budget categories, we save a pre-determined amount of money from each paycheck to cover our utility expenses. We have calculated our costs on an annual basis and divide the total by 24 to know how much to save each paycheck. (If you get paid every other week and reconcile your budget every two weeks, you’ll want to divide by 26). Because of our system and the mild Arizona winters, we always accumulate excess in our utility account as we head toward the summer — usually $500 to $700. This money will be slowly depleted by our higher summer utility costs.”
Basically by fine-tuning your budget to match your paycheck cycles you can make your money go further as dividing by 26 results in a smaller amount going into each category with each paycheck. This actually frees up money to be used in other ways.
It appears that you don’t have budget categories for annual expenses like vacations or “pesky annual bills.” We handle those by creating a specific budget account for “VACATION” or “CAR REPLACEMENT” or “PESKY ANNUAL BILLS” and with each paycheck, we put a little money in those categories. When the annual expense, or as in the case of car replacement, an expense that occurs every 5 or 7 years, occurs we have a good sum of cash saved for it.
The problem usually lies in your budgeting program. Does QuickBooks allow you to only track what you have spent, or could you set it up to accumulate cash in advance of expenses (like vacation or car replacement).
For example: If I set aside $100 in cash each month for vacation and put it in a jar, in month 3 I would have $300 saved in that jar. My budgeted amount was $300 per month, but I didn’t spend any of it. If I did the same thing in Quicken, it showed that I was NEGATIVE $100 each month for a total of -$300 by the third month.
The only budgeting software that we are aware of that allows you to accumulate cash in advance of expenses is Mvelopes.com. Other people have told us that YouNeedABudget.com does a pretty good job also.
We don’t use software, we use the old-fashioned paper and pencil method we described in our book.
Bottom line: Add those annual expense accounts to your budget. Manipulate your budget software to manage those new accounts (or use a different software or method) and you’ll find yourself debt free, with money saved for the future.
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